I've been off the net for the last week or so, while moving, and am just starting to go through the forums and galleries to see what I've missed. I've got to say, I'm a little disappointed to see a few things in this thread.

The great thing about a software like Vue (4, Pro, Infinite, whatever...) is that all levels of talent, ability, and pocketbook can enjoy it. Whether you are interested in "perfecting" your sci-fi stuff, just piddling around with it and making the standard beginner's island-in-middle-of-sea-with-a-palm-tree, doing abstracts, killing time, playing with your imagination, doing photorealistic stuff, there's something in the various editions of Vue for just about everyone. While I admit there is stuff in the gallery I am not interested in, I would never make a cruel or mean comment to someone, whether in a critique or otherwise. Or to single out a few folks and call their stuff "kitsch" or whatever, to me, that isn't constructive at all; in fact, I find it rather unkind. One thing I've always liked about this forum is that most of the time, folks get along well, help each other, and defend each other when someone is being trolled or harrassed.

Please don't forget that there are people posting in the gallery of various ages, from teenagers to grandparents...people with physical and emotional challenges...folks who have a lot of time on their hands, and those who have to steal minutes to fire up their computers.

Robert and Cermit, I've always admired your skills at Vue, but I find it a little sad that you feel everyone posting in the gallery have to play by your rules...that only so-called "masterpieces" should be posted...that "art" is only what you may define it. What's going to happen in the Vue gallery if people post the kind of images you define as "kitsch"? Is Rendero going to close? Are people going to stop looking at your stuff? Is the sky going to fall? Will the universe implode? I doubt it. If you don't like "kitsch", how about just not clicking on the thumbnail?

Sgiathalaich