I appoligize for writing an essay. OK. REBOURNE, you know me and my temperment. As we used to chat and IM each other. So you know the tone of my statements. If not you can e-mail me or IM me at any time. OR you can reply to me in this threat if you want. Tibet-It's good to know you and REBORNE are friends. I'm not sure if you are a recent friend of his or if you have you known him for three or four years as I have. If you do know him as well as you seem to think you do; can you answer for me? Can you explain why a likeable guy, with some wit, good photographic ideas, a steady lady friend, and a father of a female child would describe someone as "Not being the CUNT he expected them to be?" Do you feel that was unnescessarilly harsh? Do you think he would be allright with some stranger calling his child a cunt? Do you think REBOURNE would be allright with a teacher saying "Wow missie when I heard that you were related to this other guy I expected you to be a cunt but you are not the cunt I expected you to be." How do you think REBOURNE would respond to that? Do you think that is supportive statement? REBOURNE said just that in this forum. Were you here when Then Joardyart was venting weekly in the forum that people were photographing cats and that he hated it. Were - are you aware that he has photographed his own cat?!?! Have you noticed his vent at the world then decision to leave pattern that he goes through every so often? I have. I have no problem with him deciding to do what he wants. As he apparently does. Unfortunately, both of you think it's alright to make acerbic comments whenever one wants after all the 'net is here for all of use. I don't agree with that belief. I believe that unnessary rudeness is verboten. REBOURNE I thought felt the same way. Which is why I wonder if he realizes how rude some of his statements are. Tibet, yes the 'net is free. We can all do and say more or less what we want. But are you really saying that it's alright for me to use for example profanity because I want to. Are you saying that if I want to chain mail viruses I should I be allowed to after all the 'net is free and I can do as I choose. Is that what you are advocating? I hope not. Do you have a mom? How would you feel if she was the moderator and that is what a person says about her deciding to help out? That she is not the cunt they expected he to be? How would you feel if you had decided to become the moderator of this fun photography forum with an active fan base and one of the oldest members automatically treats you with skepticism? If you regurly observed this person who has some ginuine good ideas but seems to spend equally 50% of their time making cruel comments and jokes as well as helpfull ones? Would you ask this person "What are you doing? Why? What are you attempting to prove? Are you venting? Do you come here to vent? Are you aware that this is not solitary confinement and everyone sees you venting, calling people names, attacking their work, makeing noncreative and cruel critiques? Do you think you are helping things around here? Is your intent to help things or to tear them down? And if it is to help how has these actions helped so much?" I can tell by your reply that you like REBORNE as do I and as a friend I was doing my duty in asking him to reevaluate himself. What is he doing? Why is he angry? If he was in a forum and another person acts like he does what would he think? Would he care if they said they were going to leave? No Tibet I am not a lunatic. Thank you for your kind comments. It's good to know you are the calm voice of reason. I don't care what the others have said. I try to think for my self regarding post and often ignore the replies. I read REBOURNE's comment and maybe three others. I replied to REBOURNE not to anyone else's. I didn't say for him to enter the net to please me. Which is apparently what you think. I did urge him to not to enter the net and comment when he is upset. I don't think that's unreasonable. I tried to explain why in case it's not. Let me put it this way. Do you relish the angry drunk for example joining the conversation when they are mad at the world? If you have ever experienced someone staggering in to a conversation with unnessary statements and ideas then you know what I am saying. Conversations can be heated and troublesome enough. Without someone joining in with extra emotional baggage. When all one is seing is text then things are harder still. I'm sure you have heard of the idea not to discuss issues when you are angry. That's what I suggested. As he works at a job and has family this can't be new to him. I hope this is not new or unreasonable to you either. I thought REBOURNE was pro reason. Maybe I missed something? Bsteph