Yes I use Norton Internet Security and Anti Virus maybe it is the problem? I try everything right now , reinstalled but still get crash if I try to move or save anything... I think that is a very bad situation for the users but as usuall there is always something wrong with the first version but one thing make me worry, what use Poser6 that our security system don't like? and why other members don't have the problem and we well.. is the security system of other members not that good? it is strange to me but I go to try one more time and we see if this works or not.. Thank you for your help Cath

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