excuse my tangent: move to modship... less human... it's a shame there are a few that have become just that if anything it's even harder to overcome that dislike for authority & having to keep the peace & be diplomatic & try & see stuff from everyone's viewpoint & decide is it worth losing a few other members because a member wants to act up, having to be as fair as one can without compromising one's own beliefs... i know, i've been there, obviously i couldn't handle it & i miss the ones we have now lost :(