You missed my point. When someone says the word "Norton," it is the name of a company. There are many Norton Products. It's important to know which product you're talking about. I'm currently using Norton SystemWorks, but I'm not using Norton Antivirus or Norton Internet Security. To take the name confusion into the graphics world: Many people now say they have problems with "DAZ." DAZ is a company that makes many products, including DAZ|Studio. Now is someone having problems with DAZ, the company, or DAZ|Studio, the program?