yeah i already figured if i do conforming gloves you'll have to turn the hands and fingers invisible... too many collision issues otherwise. I turn off visibility on hands and fingers anytime i use gloves .. i turn off the feet parts with boots too for that matter. with the cat suit i turn off almost the whole body. :) well i spent the morning making scabbard for my scimitar... and it looks really good .. finally. but looks like that's it for the day. I have lots of house work to do.