i will be really honest too, Cindy. i read most of the threads but i don't read them all from beginning to end so i miss stuff. and even when i do read things, a lot of times i don't get it. i don't always see the "insults" that may be there. i guess i've taken what has been called "rude comments" as joking or teasing. i get confused when people are being rude or teasin'. i don't think we need to be calling people names like a_s, c_nt, etc. if we're mad or upset with someone, then IMO we need to express it without the profanity. i didn't realize some things were being said in seriousness here. i think i'm pretty sensitive person most of the time, but apparently i'm not as sensitive as i think. i don't ever wanna see people hurt; i'm sorry people have been hurt around here. and if i've done or said anything to hurt or offend anyone, i'm truly sorry. i hope you will tell me either here publically in the forum or IM me. i don't want there to be bad feelings. if i've been insensitive, rude, or upset you in anyway, just let me know. i will apologize and try to make it up to you. i guess we all interpret things different ways. a lot goes over my head these days. i don't understand it all. i'm tired of trying to figure all this out. i think misunderstandings happen a lot without the nonverbal communication that we have in face-to-face contact. and then we have language and cultural differences. and people differences. as for backhanded insults, Cindy...maybe i didn't read ENOUGH into them. i care for you guys too, but i refuse to spend all my time trying to figure out what's an insult and what's not. i'm sick of it! LET'S STOP INSULTING EACH OTHER!!!!!!! i don't think people should be permitted to SERIOUSLY be calling other people names. Teasing is one thing, but intentional name-calling is another. I thought that if that kind of thing was going on, the moderator would step in and say something. but i don't know all the rules. Are we seriously allowed to call each other names in here? i didn't think we were. i'm not one for rules, but i think we need to have a rule that we don't call people names. jeesh. Pascale, i luv you to death, but if you were seriously calling Wolf an ass yesterday, then IMO, that was rude. If you're mad at him, fine. tell him you're mad. tell him, "I'm angry because..." but don't call him a name. i don't think that's nice. i'm sure you will be mad at me now, but oh well. someone will get mad at me. i will be honest and direct as i always am. IMO, it's just not nice to call people names. i thought you were joking around. i think i was wrong about that. Mike, i think it's been great having you around here. I've found you to be fun. others apparently haven't. I've taken a lot of what you've said as teasing. Maybe it has been; maybe it hasn't been. If you were seriously calling Doug a C_UNT...well that was rude and uncalled for. If you are seriously calling people names and intentionally saying things to hurt people, then i wish you would stop doing that. I just have a hard time figuring out what's teasing and what's being rude. I guess i'm stupid and insensitive...at least that's how i feel. fine. i'll accept that. Anyway, Life is freakin' painful enough without intentionally TRYING to alienate people. I'm NOT saying that's what you're doing. I'm saying if you are doing that, then i wish you would stop. I have absolutely NO idea what's going on between you and Tedz. No idea! i guess i read stuff and it and goes over my head. or i haven't read the whole thread. i dunno. i'm lost. Guys...it sounds to me like we just need to stop the name calling altogether...even in jest. I don't know when the "F" you guys are serious and when you're not. I understand something one way, and someone else understands it another. So I'll try to be clear here what I would like to see happen. If you're mad at someone, tell them. but don't call someone a name. Can we try to keep it at, "I feel angry because...." or "I feel hurt because..." Yes, we have freedom of speech, but i don't think we need to be rude. I know it's not always easy. I'm probably being rude here. if i am, i'm sorry. half the time what ya'all say goes over my head. that's not your fault. i don't wanna spend too much time in the forum if there's gonna be all this upset. what's the point? I guess i'll stick around and see how things go for awhile. i think you guys are awesome! there's NO ONE here i dislike. NO ONE!!! As usual, i've written a novel. i'm sorry. i did my best. sigh. sorry for everyone i've offended.