ok agiel i'll remove this image..thanks for getting back to me so promptly...you can remove your link now as it probably wont work now i've removed it..would hate to offend anybody with my work..isnt it funny how times change..and what a sad reflection on the times we now live in..wouldnt it be funny if we went to a beach one day and saw everybody sweating away fully clothed.well not so funny methinks..anyhows thanks again agiel ..guess its dragons and landscapes from now on..regards(davy)