lol i'm using poser 4 keep that in mind ... hrmm .. magnets .. i've never used magnets .. cool idea! then i'll just be able to make shin guards and make them fit .. hrm... i wonder if i'm gonna have problems scaling and positioning the shin guards with the boots :( maybe i can export the boots after they're morphed as obj's re-inport them and use that to scale and place the shins guards... then again i need to make the shin guards first .. lol with what little poke thru there is ... after i make the shin guards we may not even need the morph ... i hope i don't make shis a huige waste of your time logan.... belt was coming along nicely .. then my system bluescreened and i suddenly realized jho long it had been since i saved ... the entire hip catch is gone.. :( ok off to steam clean the carpets!!!!