My point perzackly. I always wanted to do a movie called 'If the Hippies Had Won in the 60's'. My theory is that the hippies were too close to the 'leibensreform; (sp) movement that was hi-jacked by the, um, n-word volk to survive let alone achieve world domination. But--30's, 60's, 90's. You can find John Gilmore every year at the Oregon Country Faire. Let a thousand open sources bloom.