'Just curious -- once you dump animals, humans and robots out of Poser, then what's left to pose?' I don't do any posing, xenophonz. I use poser to test the content I create, mainly houses and furniture. That's why I said I'm not a typical poser user. I use the occasional human to check scale, but that's about it. After 20 years as a fashion photographer.... well, I'm not gonna say I'm fed up looking at beautiful women, 'cause I'm not and never will be. But in poser, I find furniture more intersting than women. Of course, once I leave the house, it's a different story. LOL. mac