Donald, Do what you must. I can say that this forum is not what it used to be. ANd I mean that in two ways. One is the one that you and I rememebr and the other is the crap that we lived through not that long ago. I have thought that this forum might jsut get too heady for me. To be honest I have learned to ignore the crap. You will be missed and those left behind will suffer from the loss. Not much else to say except keep in touch on or off the list. Magick Michael