Farside, "How good Jessi turns out will depend entirely on support from merchants. If she gets support then she's got a very good chance of being equal to V3, if she doesn't then we'll probably see CL stop really trying to compete with figures and just concentrate on the proggie itself. It would be a waste of their time to create further figures if these new ones fail to gain support again. " I respectfully disagree. The included characters with Poser do NOT have to achieve the amazing results of V/M, in sales of characters (there is no sale of characters) or in the giant third-party wave that accompanies (especially) Vickie. That's because J&J are simply PoserMale and PoserFemale; they support the sale of the program. That's their job. Poser = $249.00 and that's a nice ticket. Daz has no such ticket. When I said Jessi will equal Vicki, I did not mean in sales of character paks and clothing. I meant in quality of model and general appeal. This will gradually lead to a new paradigm. Current paradigm: beginners purchase poser, fool around with the included figures (ho-hum), go on the boards and hear vickie this and vickie that and very soon download Vickie and begin to work into the entire Daz ethos. New paradigm: beginers purchase poser, fool around with the included figures (ZOWIE!) and learn Poser with the native models. They can get Pamela Sue Jessi just as easy as Pamela Sue Vickie and make NJIATWAS, if that is their intention. James will give them little reason to seek out another male figure. I am not saying this new paradigm with eliminate V/M/Daz...just cut into it. The ball will swing over. Then if/when Daz comes out with a new Pro line for the Unimesh and gets Studio to do A LOT more, there will be a new paradigm of competition....'Are you a Poser j/j person or are you a Studio v/m person." Daz will be the one with the uphill battle, because the current baseline for Studio is Zero$, while entry into the Poser world will drive revenue to CL because of the established $249. Certainly, Studio will eventually have a price and who knows, Poser might have to come down in price. The competition and cross-using will be great for all of us. ::::: Opera :::::