'I don't use voice software or multiple monitors, so I couldn't possibly know that it would be difficult in that situation' Apologies, joseph. I wasn't blaming you for saying it. I had just been hoping it was all fixed. 'Shouldn't be too hard for CL to address if they have the motivation' splutter choke cough 'If they have the motivation' - That's good. That's really good. This isn't aimed at you, layingback. It's just that if CL need us to motivate them to fix basic bugs in their software, I think we can all forget about it ever happening. I seriously doubt if there'll ever be another P5 patch, so it looks like they have no interest whatsoever. mac