Dear Rachel, Nesterenko is on the money about Painter 3D. i got a sample version with my upgrade to RDS5.5 last year, and i hate it just as much as regular old Painter for 2D. How the heck does that program work?! Anyhow, you don't really want to make clothes by painting them on your figures, unless you just want to make unitards. :^) And learning how to deal with meshes in RDS is, er, scary. 3D modelers tend to have steep learning curves. i am still reading books & poking at models. The Mesh Form Modeler takes some getting used to (and i'm not used to it, either!). Try opening up the .obj for a clothes object in RDS and see what it looks like. Then poke at it. Start by modifying something already made, like some of the basic P4 clothes. The allegedly simpler consumer-oriented (as opposed to industrial-strength) 3D programs are deceptive: yes, you can easily prod a lump into some colorful form, but they're never accurate or powerful enough to really do the job. Don't be discouraged, just take it little bites at a time & be persistent. --Nan