I've got to ask a newbish question and I ain't afraid to look dumb askin' it.... Khai: >> erm actually. Poser Six has a new rigging enhancements ;) hence the lack of need for buttocks.. which are a kludge in the first place.<< erm = external morphs, right? Can you explain how buttocks are/were a kludge, why is it and advantage to leave them out, and most of all, this does not mean that you can't give James and his girlfriend a proper cute tushie, right? Because although Randy says it's "not an advantage" to many, it can't be hard to "dial a tush", right? ::::: Opera :::::