It was Posette. I have Vickie and like working with her, but doing the elven face was complex, and vickie doesn't have enough morphs for that yet. Trav has some excellent elven morphs which, slightly modified, were perfect. Vickie doesn't have any that I know of. Unless Zygote included something like that. I've rarely used vickie yet, so I'm not too sure which morphs she came with. :) Here's what I've done on her so far. My sister suggested higher cheek bones and a more delicate nose. I haven't done those yet, but I agreed with her. :) Greywolf