"..and a certain subset of the general membership jump on it as a violation of the TOS (Terms of service). There's a separate forum called "Product Showcase Forum" (see link in masthead above) created for such posts some time back when strident and tediously repetitive complaints from some members that their personal freedoms were being compromised by being subjected to such info in the main Poser Forum got too energy-draining for the Site administration to ignore..." Not jumping, just startled. I boomarked so that if it was moved, I would see where and when. Given that less than three hours previous to the posting I was informed that it is not permissible to post Beta testing requests to the Product Showcase forum, I will admit to being slightly peeved, especially since I was also informed a few months back that testing requests for commercial items were not allowed in this forum, and that they should be posted in the Product showcase forum (although posting a link to it here was permissible). Basically, I'm just trying to make sure that I follow the rules, however silly I may think them to be, and I'm getting rather dizzy trying to keep up with them! As for personal freedoms, well, they dinnae apply here, lol. "A lot of members (myself included) find it a silly non-issue, and either don't care or would prefer it all to be in the Poser Forum, ..." I agree. But, on the other hand, I'm also aware that the primary purpose of this forum is for learning how to do stuff in Poser, and at the time of the PS forum creation, there were roughly 10 commercial posts to every OT and question. Didn't bother me none, but when the rules are changed, we sorta gotta abide by them. RCT -- in all truth, I don't mind that you posted here, nor do I have any issues with it personally. All I'd like is for an explanation of the current policy regarding the Poser Forum, Product Showcase, and Beta Testing requests. I apologize to you, personally, for apparently derailing your post. I wasn't trying to do that. Personally, I don't see beta testing requests as commercial, and don't have a problem with them here. Advertisements for products for sale, well, that's another matter, lol in sum: I just wanna follow the rules. Can someone please tell me what they are?

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