Vethril: Actually, I'm north of the border. We give thanks here evey day that the Columbia is beyond the reach of the LA Water Bureau. Anybody ever see the movie China Town? As Nicloa Tesla showed, energy blows though us like the wind. If Doerr, Bezos or Jobs invested in Dean Kamen's $1500 Stirling engine there could be good things coming out of New Hampshire. Bucky Fuller showed plans for indoor windmills (!!!) but nobody thought the all-weather maintenance was sufficient advantage. They sure wouldn't chew up birds. Innovation moves faster than corruption. Only new industries can save us. lorraine: I hear that overall demand has gone down with Internet's rise (but it's still being blamed), and the alternate source producers are getting hammered, instead of benefitting for the raid on the consumer's pocket. Seem consistent with your senario.