Um.. no 3D Exploration mjustmike :) I am fairly inept at the moment at most 3d programs.. but the Chapel that I LOVE is in environments at 3D cafe.. under free stuff. I downloaded it but haven't a clue what a .cel file is Thank you so much for the answer.. and if I can't get THAT chapel.. I may try what you said and make a window in poser.. ponders how to do this Okay..I think I can :) Still.. if you find a good chapel out there in your wanderings... that works in Poser.. I would love to have it Thanks again for the advice :)