How many of you remember seeing parents dragging their kids into public places with shirts on but no pants...and it was almost exclusively just boys?I remember seeing mothers who had sons and daughters like this and their daughters always had pants or diapers but their sons were fully exposed.Around here that stopped only because of decency laws created just to address issues like this because absolutely no one could make any sense of it. I remember growing up seeing images of nude faerys and such in literature as well,but it wasn't widespread and often if it were a realistic depiction it would be reproductions of the same images you might find elsewhere.I myself see nothing wrong with images of that nature so long as the artist employs discipline and the nature of the image is innocence. Let me provide a query here...lets say you have a fantasy character whose body has not aged since childhood but her mind has developed fully into that of an adult.In fantasy you could create such a person and logic would say that she might look like a child,but she would act wholly like an adult and even pursue relationships of a sexual nature.You can envision such a character existing...but it takes discipline not to create sexually explicit images of the character and set a standard by which others would use your work to excuse their own which is not innocently motivated. Thats what I mean about discipline,examine the possible follow up on your work by others...do it only when you cannot find another way and even then the way you pose or set the characters have to be of concern.The reason this issue is important is because you have to get together to establish standards which others can borrow from...standards you make work and that even if some are uneasy with certain works,they nonetheless accept them because most can see the "reasoning" for your vision. Whats important to know is that if you support or oppose images pertaining to child nudity...its not the radicals who should be allowed to set standards,but the majority on both sides finding common ground we can all accept.I think Rosity,DAZ and others would be very interested in seeing the artists themselves conducting dialogue for that purpose...not just saying I see nothing wrong so leave it alone or I think its wholly wrong so do away with it all.I hoped to start such dialogues in the past but feelings among some are clearly divided to the far right or left so it was hard to get things going where we ourselves could set a standard. On my site its easy...get out of line and insult someone and I'll pound ya lol (only one on my site insulting people is me...can't have people stealing my thunder;).We can have such discussions because we kinda have a little family going there.Try to think of yourselves that way...a few cross words here or there but you were respectful to other commentors by in large. You don't have to give a mile to give an inch,you just have to realise we all have the same destination in mind and get there together. I'm proud of you guys for keeping things relatively civil...was afraid I'd come home from work today and find myself roasting on a spit lol.You surprised me and I'm delighted you did...thank you:)

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