mason, with that hardware and the relative simplicity of scened you are describing, FireFly should be able to succeed, although I do not know how intense a resource drain darkplaces back alley figure scene is. P6... one can't evaluate yet, definitively, because there is a specific problem that is being fixed as we speak. squid69 I can almost BET people are assuming the sys has hung when really it is just sys needs another 15 minutes before you see anything happen. The other posters here are indicating that P6 is better at reporting these delays. ::::: Opera :::::