Thanks for tips MJ - I did get that chapel from 3DCafe and I wrestled with it for hours. It looks so plastic-y, and I couldn't get the lights correct either. I read that you can put a light behind the window for a very cool effect - but my lighting skills are poor. I would like to know just how to get a light behind the stained glass... I have 3dexplorer and I didn't know about the conversion utility. Just used it as a browser - what a DUH!