well, happy b'day..there's nothing that can't be solved by a bigger hammer..;) Yeah, I know it's a pain, but NEVER throw out the docs..when you run into problems like this 6 months down the road, and your '8 delicious super long march system board' is beeping 'the East is Red', you can get a web site or phone number at least to help you out (sorry, I build my own pc's so I get ..well, 'off brand' stuff a lot..it's saved my bacon once or twicet..;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)