'Ah, Mac, I thought you were still having the "highlight part" issue. I disabled that, and found poser much harder to work with, but re enabling it was a pain, because poser kept resetting it. I finally just locked the preference file, and that took care of that!' Garee, Didn't you disable it in the .ini file? That's where I did it. Change HILITE_BODY_PART 1 to HILITE_BODY_PART 0 That kills it completely. mac