Thanks to everyone for contributing :) especially Spanki who must have spent a long time doing all that work. I think I have a better idea of whats going on now :) I have had a look through the manual and tutorials provided with p6, and it leaves me a bit lost to be honest. Either they are not very clear or I am not very clever. Answers on a postcard please. Anyway here is a second attempt, the only difference being ao turned on on the left one, both using image based lighting. Take care all :) John

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