Dont get me wrong im not downing Onyx,i am just having trouble with there products,and i am just having issues on finding tutorials and such.Perhaps i misspoke:P The documentation i got with the software is a bit to "techsaavy" for my blood.I havent been able to find any tuts over there is all.I use 2 versions of poser have used Bryce in the past and 2 versions of Vue so far and Onyx is to complex for me to grasp,go figure.I am having this issue for one and cant get over it.I rendered a simple model of a broadleaf tree and as you see this is as close to "realism" as i cant get with the prog in Vue.I just thought it would be better and i am sure it can if i can grasp the whole thing.For the money i paid for the suite i was expecting a bit more and am sure it can do more,it is just kicking my ass.As you see the boughs and branches dont look to well and the leaves are transparent.Any suggestions or directions anyone can point me in?