Ah, ok, I thought you were having problems with the program itself. :) The manuals can be a bit dry. When I first got the program, I glanced at the manuals and then just started playing around with the parameters to see what everything did, only referring to the manual when I couldn't figure out what something was. Like any program, it just takes some time to learn all the ins and outs. There is an ENORMOUS amount of tweaking you can do with each element of the trees, and it will take some time to get a good handle on all the intricacies. When you do, you can create any kind of tree imaginable, and then some. I've used Onyx Tree Pro to make everything from grass to pine cones to bushes to ferns to a bamboo fishing pole to a bonsai pine tree in it's own pot. Not to mention some just plain weird stuff. ;) I don't know of any tutorials, but the best advise I can give to you would be to load one of the presets and and change the parameters one at a time, and watch what effect it has. Yeah, I know that doesn't sound like much fun, (it was for me, but I'm weird that way ;) ) but after a little while you'll get the hang of how the program works. Believe me, it will be well worth the time. "As you see the boughs and branches don't look to well" Try changing the curving, angle and twist parameters a little, that will make them less stiff and more natural looking. The Branches and twigs do look a bit stiff, but actually I think the boughs look fine, it really just depends on what type of tree you want. I'm afraid I can't help you with the Vue part, I don't own it. Coldrake