kaveman: "Sexualised by people like you" - perhaps you misunderstand the meaning of that. 'Sexualised' doesn't mean actually doing anything to them - it means seeing them as potentially sexual in some way. It means simply, don't create sexuality when there is none there - the sexuality of kids with no shirts on is entirely in the eyes of the beholder, not the kids. The eyes of both the moral vigilante and the pedophile. Leave them to their innocence instead, don't create guilt in the minds of kids unnecessarily. Remember the old stories about the Victorians of the 19th Century and their table legs? That's a good example of sexualisation. Seeing table legs as potentially exciting so one has to cover them. Now don't add to society's apparent need right now to do that with our children. They don't need it. So make sure you understand the meaning of the expression before you get mad. I never said that you see kids as sexual yourself - just don't assume others do. I do NOT. Kids are welcome to run around naked. I don't care. :] Fish