I'll stick with Poser 4 - not everone can afford the latest high end graphics cards or comps. I'm just a 'tinkerer' with 3D..so what I have will suffice until finances, and time improve. And I'd not complain TOO much if folks start producing models that require what the new programs and systems have. After all..there are LOTS of stuff still around for P4..no-body can use all of what is NOW available. Look at some of the awesome results that talented artist's have done with P4 and all it's "limitations". Having all the latest programs/models/computers...thats not going to help all that much if you still can't use it to full potential.