Naysayers... Pah! Coldrake, please take no offense, we're all just a bunch of 3D geeks, just like you. That said, I can understand your loyalty to DAZ, they have put out many great models over the years, and DAZ studio is a promising app to say the least, although I don't think it's quite as powerful as Poser is yet... (yet) THAT said, having started on a long-term Mayan adventure, I can't say I'll be using Poser for much longer. There are exactly zero things that Poser can do that Maya can't do, and exactly a billion things that Maya can do that Poser cannot. The same holds true for Bryce itself. To sum it up, without any more egotism than my screen-name, I don't care what DAZ does with Bryce's rendering engine, it's still never gonna touch mental ray (one of the renderers I use with Maya), ever. I'll keep my Bryce 5 around and use it daily for artistic purposes, but as my workflow and knowledge increases in Maya I daresay I'll eventually do all of my 3D rendering in Maya... (is going the way of Doublecrash, alas...)