by posting it exists they may go get it themselves to see how they may need to alter system to stop it. ~l~ it only takes the login server to die and kill entire site. yet putting it all into the same db creates a huge db, which is one file, and that could be so large it crashes the system, not just a program. postgresql is stronger for a site as large, but it's slower also. the entire script may need to start using different engines within mysql to function better. ( innodb is fantastic for reading the db ) speed up page flips, yet kill overhead for db calls.