"But we're seeing the same specious arguments here that we saw 4 years ago, when Thorne and the others split off in self-righteous rage and disgust. I think the nude child enthusiasts should think up some new arguments if they want to persuade anyone here." Just as a point of clarification, Thorne NEVER did nude children. He was a victim of the if it doesn't have massive mutant boobs crowd it must be a child crowd. Thorne creates models of exactly the kind of women I've been involved with and married to and loved all my life. I can't blame him for leaving when he worked his ass off to create beautiful models, only to be accused of doing children. He and I happen to share the same taste in women, and as he told me once, all his models are based on a real person. I don't know the circumstances of anyone else leaving when Thorne did, bit I DO know his circumstances. His models are my favorite models and I use them constantly. Just as another clarification, Walt Disney adored his children to the point of obsession, and there was never a whisper of any impropriety. He loved all children, sorta why he did what he did, you know. And for someone that's supposedly an anti semite, his first partner was jewish, his head man ub iwerks was jewish and a very large number of his animators and employees were jewish. Kind of makes the point a bit moot. Are the same arguments to be found here as have been found in the past? Sure, because they're still valid arguments. I don't do nude kids. I almost did once, a while back, but the whole child porn freak out dissuaded me from showing a little boy butt in a picture. I do, as I said, use Thorne's models a LOT, since those are the kind of women I prefer, so I am a bit concerned that what is, essentially, a matter of taste in women, will be transformed into beiing accused of liking children because some viewer can't discriminate between a grown woman who's petite and has small boobs as opposed to the standard mutant boobed naked vicky in the temple.

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