I do use Vue 5 (not Infinite yet) and I do like it. I don't care for the way it renders Poser content though. The textures always seem a little blanched. I have been rendering in shade 7 since I got it and I have to say that the render quality is HIGH (!) though it takes a very long time. Until I got my copy of Shade 7 with my p6 pre-oder I was exporting from p5 to Carrara (which also renders Poser content well, (though I think I like Shade better) The thing is I was HOPING that P6 would be the "Do it all in one program" solution. Oh well, I still got a great deal on the pre-order. Service releases will be along shortly................ I hope :P