Hi all I cant do "copyrighted" characters..because I'd like this to be available to the community when done. I would like to add that you can do anything with the model you wish when done...including sell it. All I want is my name in the readme... pakled, the gargoyle would be a lot of fun to make, but pure h-e-double-toothpicks to pose. Wings are such a pain in the arse :)...but Im not crossing him of the "possible" list, because the poser community could definately benefit from a cool gargoyle character. Its one of those things that ya just dont see. Kinda like a poser elephant...used to be you couldnt find one. I made two (a cartoon and a real one) then they started popping out of the woodwork. I like KeeCoyote's character..there are several out there that are interesting to me so I'll wait to see what else comes up before deciding on anything. as for a deadline? I dont want to set a final date because when I have the time to do this, I'll want to start right then. :) But I'd say ASAP. Any kind of drawing, anything to help me see what you see in your mind's eye. Doesnt have to be a pure work of art. :) BT