Fugazi1968, Believe it or not, but my low poly "cage" was very similar to what tou have in your part7 download. I am using my version as a base for shirts, jackets, etc. I do plan to make some dynamic clothes, kinda like how you presented in your tutorial. Randym77, Silo is a modeler, a cross between the functionality of Wings3D and the workflow of Maya. It is a sub-d/ box/poly type modeler, whereas Shade is a spline based modeler. I do plan to use both Silo and Shade, as Silo does not have a rendering package; therefore I will import my models into Shade to render and play around with. -The Starkdog