I was just thinking, if you're more comfrotable in PSP, you can render your models naked and then paint the clothes on however you want. That should solve the feeling of just dressing up dollies and be very creative. Hair painting is a bit tougher, but still lots of people do it. There are plenty of ways to use Poser as a base and not be stifled with your creativity. You just don't have to use it the way everyone else does, that's all. Emily