Just a few points: It is not up to people posting images to act as advertisers for the software. It is not their duty to show people what can be achieved by one package alone. They paid for the software, they can do whatever they like with it. There is no such thing as cheating in 3d. You should use all the tools at your disposal, all the time. All that matters is the final image. There is an image in my Terragen gallery that I created with 4 applications. No-one over there cared about how it was created. I simply don't understand this purist mentality.