What kind of stupid things would that be? ;) I got the PP memory patch from CL. The Vue version I used was Vue d'esprit 5. I think it is still Vue 5.1 Could it be that a memory glitch there can affect the system so much that afterwards even Poser 4 PP keeps crashing??? Funny. What's more, someone said that Windows XP can't handle more than 1 gig memory effectively. I am contemplating inflating my memory to the technical limit as soon as I can afford. Is XP really a bottleneck here? Back to Win 2000 or what?