Mary, Ya know, my day job is interfering with my Poser fiddling! Darn it! :^) Anyhow, yes, i'll have to conquer that next... after these three current projects. i was hoping for a quick fix, but one is seldom rewarded for trying to squiggle out of doing the work. As for a foot morph for Victoria, since Jim Burton's nice-looking one only works for P4woman, what would you like in return?? Cash via PayPal, or something else? Many thanks, Nan