I still don't agree with you Randy; I don't think Vickie/Jessi are even Caucasian. There. That's a radical statement! But no problem, to explore your point of view, to your knowlege has anyone ever modeled a figure and brought it into poser? And if so, what race was it? Are there 'ethnic' models at Turbo Squid and other unPoser resource sites? ::::: Opera :::::