yep...you found my secret. My dragons were all flood filled, saved me from having to spend months trying to match up all the wrinkles at the seams. My GAD was a bit more complex and had only 20 odd layers of flood fills built up with variing levels of transparency to pretend to simulate the complex details of the translucency of skin. LOL Yep...we are all just faking it so we can milk fortunes off of poser shoppers LOL (yes...all this is said tongue-in-cheek because, while I am not at all impressed by the post, I am not insulted either, because I am sure that my (and most DAZ) products can speak for themselves as to quality) Rawn