Hi everyone, Great thread, and it's good to hear all the opinions. Basically J&J are free, if you buy P6 of course. We have no immediate plans for breaking them out for everyone but the trend does seem to be, give the character away and sell the peripherals. CL is just in a different spot than those that do not create core software. I would also mention that comparing the DAZ figs to P6 at this point is apples and oranges. V3 vs. J1, and the DAZ figures have not always been free, and frankly there's a good bit of personal preference involved in all of this. We're really close on the content updater which will address the aforemetioned toe issues. I think there's plenty of room for many more characters and variety is always good. If I only have x amount of dollars to spend I like to have choices and I have spent a good wad of cash on Poser content, including DAZ stuff. That being said, we're really trying to support any content developer creating for any P6 character. It just grows the community and that's good for Poser. Also I wanted to mention that RDNA did not create the characters for P6. They did provide a lot of support for us in many different aspects. If you would like to know about Jessi click on the "Featured Image" on contentparadise.com. and there's a list of credits. James was done by a Japanese artist, Larry, Myself, and Les and is in no way based on any previous body or rig. There's also over 10 people that I know of currently creating morphs for him but he's in his infancy so they will start to come out soon I'm sure. Again RDNA has been really helpful with so many things. They really put a lot of work into P6 and I want to give them their props. Anyways thanks again for the comments we'll keep them in mind. Steve