Thank you all so much for your help. The part of using someone elses was the problem I was concerned about. (The copyright issues). I did play with one and the gal knows I did, and I have never used it except to give it back to her, but I really enjoyed working with it. I just didn't know if it was improper to ask her to actually make me some. I will do that. She can only say no. I have looked on the DAZ site and was not able to find quite what I was looking for but I will keep my eyes open. Thank you for all the info. The Copyright issue was my worry at altering someone elses work as I know that is not legal. You have given me enough to work with now. Thank you.