Thank you for the link for DAZ Wyrwulf. I have downloaded that program before and tried to work with it. I was not able to figure it out. I have some trouble comprehending things at times and there is where my problem lies in following tuts. I am well versed in PSP by trial an error as I could not follow a tut. But I can paint. I will attach a sample of my work. This was my first in photoshop, and the background was completed in PSP. I just finished that a few weeks ago. But I am wanting to do Christian paintings of people in robes as in Biblical paintings, that is what I want the figures for. right now I am starting one using my sons body in a photo as my basic structure, but I would not beable to use that to show publically for his privacy. Retrocity, thank you for the ideas, I will approach the gal I know and mention the default figures and then check it with the copyright forum if she agrees. In time, I hope that I can do my own body structures, and in playing with these I hope to learn how. You all have been very helpful to me and I thank you. Lamb