Francemi, Thanks for the kind words. It is great knowing that there are people out there who really appreciate difficult modeling. Anyways, I still have to UVmap them, which will be a pain, and texture them. I am debating whether to have seperate pp2's for each character, or a morph channel, ie V3fit, Davidfit, Maddiefit, etc. What would be preferable? Oh yeah, here is another teaser shot. One nice thing about these, is that the heel strap follows the heel and does not bury into the shin. -The Starkdog