Thanks both of you. I don't know how you do it....involved in so many aspects of this website. I hadn't ventured past the galleries until following the link you included in your Cocoa image Cynthia..so thankyou again for introducing me to this aspect of Renderosity. The wealth of knowledge and prolific creative inclination of the people here is mind-boggling and I appreciate it very much when you all take the time to look and critique my offerings. I don't have a lot of technical savvy and the first person to be surprised if an image turns out is ME! It is a wonderful feeling to be able to show an image I captured, to someone other than my immediate family, especially to a group as accomplished as the artist/photographers who call this group home. Cheers to all of you! Peter