Gareee,

I have no such hatred of things DAZ per se, nor passionate advocacy for Jessi the way she is. Nothing of the kind. In fact, (with due respect for the content SR due out momentarily) at the moment Jessie is WORSE than Vicki, in my opinion, and my opinion of Vickie is REALLY low.

How can you animate these female characters in the nude or with conforming second-skin clothing with the football gear shoulder, elbow bizarreness, knee and inward-bending spaghetti arms?

Where my passion REALLY lies is here: I am an advocate of a proper rigging system for Poser.

I'm not angry about the current lack of...this is a $250 program that started life as an artist's tool to pose stick figure so you could model in reality. I am amazed and grateful it can do what it can do. Just think of what has been brought in in the last year or two...procedural materials, raytrace shadows, 3D blur, and now AO, IBL, spot lights, etc, etc. Amazing. It is entirely possible that in the next two years there could be a 64-bit rewrite and a new rigging system. Frankly, it is my responsibility to not delude myself that Poser is Max or Maya at this time.

There are no great models right now, including Jessi and Victoria. That is my deep breath, cooled off, objective opinion.

As some may know, my favorite model is Masha for 3DS Max. But most likely if an attempt were made to bring her into Poser, she would suffer the same fate as V/J because of the current Poser Rigging System.

Money is not the issue for me in this regard, so that element is not coloring my thinking. If I thought Masha could be Poserized I'd pay the $295.00 right now, right this instant. If Daz ever solves the rigging issue (they won't unless they do it in their own program) I will be there with my CC the day they bring out a great model and I hope they charge $295.00

Despite YOUR passion for the unimesh, that paradigm is awful, simply awful, first because of the limits to the Poser rigging system to which Vicki is completely subject, no less so than Jessi, second because in an attempt to compensate and allow for broad morph-creation, Vickie is too hi-res, third, because her basic proportions and sculpting are unpleasant. It only succeeds because there is no better Poser model and because a huge market has built up around the 'sexual' look of Victoria. That's my opinion.

I merely PREDICT, based on what I think is going to happen to 'save' Jessi, that there will be a huge thriving third-part market for Jessi that may take a year to blossom. But even more important than the 'size' of that market: The success of J/J will support and even DRIVE the sale to new people of Poser6 itself.

That is my response to the original post of this thread...

"Will Jesse and James get good support?"

Yes, they will.

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