Ok I tried that but the sun still moves with the camera, but if I check on "look ahead" in the animation toolbox of the camera the sun sun stops moving with the camera. If I then uncheck "look ahead" the sun starts moving with the camera again, I really don't understand what the "look ahead" setting on the camera has anything to do with making the sun move or not, it shouldn't really effect that. I'm trying to make the camera vibrate after an airplane fly's by and it does vibrate but with the sun not moving in the animation it really doesn't look like the camera is even shaking, it just looks like the airplane is. thanks again