But what some of you are saying here is that if you create something using someone elses model or whatever then thats not good and yet in the same breath this is a place of creating and learning and fun. But if you look down on people who don't have the same skills as you then how can they learn or have fun? I am not saying that a beginner should get into the Hot 20. To be quite honest I think you should get rid of the Hot 20. I think it is totally useless as it stands and means very little. I am saying that it would be really nice if some of the really good artists here could spend a little time commenting on some of the beginner's artwork.